Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!seismo!rochester!ritcv!cci632!ccird2!rb From: rb@ccird2.UUCP (Rex Ballard) Newsgroups: net.unix,net.lang,net.legal Subject: Are any parts of UNIX in public domain? Message-ID: <755@ccird2.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-Apr-86 13:50:39 EST Article-I.D.: ccird2.755 Posted: Fri Apr 11 13:50:39 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 13-Apr-86 08:43:02 EST References: <481@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> <518@looking.UUCP> <2437@teddy.UUCP> Reply-To: rb@ccird2.UUCP (Rex Ballard) Organization: CCI Telephony Systems Group, Roch, NY Lines: 63 Xref: linus net.unix:6984 net.lang:2091 net.legal:2968 Summary: It's hard to tell which is which. Berkely includes in it's distributions, certain pieces of public domain software. Much of it contributions from net.sources. On the other hand, they have a liscence agreement that includes trade secrecy as part of the agreement. In the case of GNUemacs, there is a long "copyright but public domain" notice. In this case, the author has proof that he owns the property, but he is explicitly putting it in public domain. In fact, the author explicitly requests that this "public domain notice" not be removed as a condition of publication. He has the right to do this because he owns the copyright. As to sources for Lex and Yacc, there is a serious question. Did Steven Johnson (the author) intend that this be a public domain program, did he not copyright it because the protections on registered copyrighted software were not in place yet (YACC was written before the revised copyright act of 1979 was in effect), or were other factors (Anti-trust, Hacker's ethic,...) preventing Bell labs from even placing copyright notices on the documentation. Perhaps AT&T believed that "trade secrets" was the better way to protect themselves under the circumstances. The formula for Coca-Cola is a well protected trade secret, but others may discover the secret, and unless they have been covered by a non-disclosure agreement, they can use the formula. In fact, this has happened several times, and Coke has had to change the formula so that their competitor can't say "it tastes just like Coke". If Cornell had a non-disclosure agreement and let a student or faculty member who had not signed a similar agreement see the source, Cornel would have been in violation of their AT&T contract. If a "hacker" broke into Cornel's computer and "ftp'd" the source to his PC, the only protection would be a copyright notice. Previous postings to net.legal indicate that under the current law, if they did not put copyright notices on the works in question, those works are not covered by copyright laws. Does AT&T release any of these "public domain programs" under the UNIX liscence? If so, AT&T may have a copyright on their specific collection of programs, but not on the programs themselves. I can understand the reluctance of a software company to register their copyrights, but they should at least put notices on each module so that users will know which is which. It is illegal to remove a copyright notice, and it's also illegal to affix one to a "public domain" (work published without copyright notice) work. This may sound peculiar to people who are dealing with "whole entities", but it is common practice among people in the entertainment industry to put copyright notices on each piece of the work. For example, scenic designers put notices on each drawing from the rendering, to the "working drawings" given to individual craftsmen for implementation. Software people have been very lax about affixing any claims to the software. In some cases, there is not even an author's name affixed to the product. I frequently put copyright notices in sources that I e-mail to others, requesting only that my name be included in the credits for that software or any derivative products. The main reason for this is that I might want to use the same code in another product, and I don't want Tektronics or somebody suing me for "violating their copyright".