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From: bart@alice.UucP (Bart N. Locanthi)
Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga
Subject: shopping frustration
Message-ID: <5208@alice.uUCp>
Date: Fri, 28-Mar-86 15:54:49 EST
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Posted: Fri Mar 28 15:54:49 1986
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yesterday a friend and i ventured to the local amiga dealer, a computer
factory store on route 46 in totowa, new jersey.  we were disappointed,
partly because of the dealer in that
1) he had no manuals beside the basic how-to and amigabasic sections in
   one binder
2) he couldn't, or wouldn't, tell us what accessories we could buy for it
3) the C development disk had nothing on it so far as we could tell
4) the dealer didn't have an amigados manual so we didn't get very far
   typing at the machine.

one of the demos we did try was amigalisp 1.0.  it at least could handle
(cons 'a 'b), but had an infinite recursive loop when we attempted to
execute (fib 2) (or (fib N) for N>1 for that matter) with fib defined
as

(df fib (n) (cond ((zerop n) 1)
	 	  ((eq n 1) 1)
		  (t (plus (fib (sub1 n)) (fib (difference n 2))))))

the machine we tried had the expansion memory.

is our experience typical?  if so, how can commodore really expect to
sell these things even at $795?