Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihwpt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihwpt!knudsen From: knudsen@ihwpt.UUCP (mike knudsen) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: UPGRADE! Message-ID: <819@ihwpt.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Apr-86 12:05:32 EST Article-I.D.: ihwpt.819 Posted: Fri Apr 18 12:05:32 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Apr-86 17:21:43 EST References: <2585@brl-smoke.ARPA> <666@riccb.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 24 > When I had this problem it was simply shorted address lines. With the upgrade > ........ > If you are unlucky the shorted lines will have to be located visually because ^^^^^^^ > you won't be able to keep the system up long enough. > Dave Burris > ..!ihnp4!ihopa!riccb!djb Don't hunt for it visually at first -- that takes forever and may never find the short. Instead, use a modern digital VOM (Volt-Ohm-Meter), preferably one with a "beeper" continuity check feature, to measure between each address line and all the others. Takes only a few minutes. Once you've found the guilty pair, then go visual, or even rip those two out and re-do them. Don't use an old non-electronic VOM, as they may feed high enough currents thru your chips to damage them. Also make sure your instrument won't indicate continuity (short) thru forward-biased solid state junctions (as in chips), thus giving false short indications. Test it on a diode, both directions, to be sure. If you can't borrow such a VOM, Radio Shack sells them for $40 (sale price, tho). Worth every cent if you hack hardware. Best of luck, mike k