Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc6!ir462 From: ir462@sdcc6.UUCP (ir462) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: IBM vs. Mac debate Message-ID: <2515@sdcc6.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Apr-86 22:39:06 EST Article-I.D.: sdcc6.2515 Posted: Tue Apr 8 22:39:06 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Apr-86 08:07:19 EST Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center Lines: 40 Keywords: IBM The various postings about the relative value of IBMs and Macs have aroused me to post my own undying words on the topic. The folks who say that IBM provides better support and upgrade paths are right, sort of. When you are a $60 billion company whose mere entry into a market (e.g. personal computers) can legitimate that market for the entire Fortune 1000 community, its pretty easy to plan on providing support. I think the example of the PCjr makes clear the possibility that a complete sales failure by the PC might have led to IBM dropping the line. However, probably the only way that the PC could have bombed would have been if it had been horrible (as opposed to its actual mediocrity) or if the concept of personal computing was as flawed as the concept of home computing (in which case Apple would be out of business too). I don't think that it was likely that any of the small PC companies could establish themselves with a reputation for service even close to that of IBM. The highly competitive PC market did not generate the kind of capital necessary or, in its early days, attract the kind of users who were interested in footing the bill for service. In many ways, Apple is providing support and upgrade paths for discontinued machines, particularly the Lisa/XL. If you allow IBM the PCjr, I think Apple is allowed the ///. Also, IBM's reputation for good service has been built over about 50 years of manufacturing business equipment and about 30 years for computers specifically. I believe that in 30 years Apple will also have a strong track record. I am particularly impressed by their commitment to supporting the programming interface. In summary, while I think the Mac superior to the PC and at least the equal of the AT, I can understand why a business user would prefer the IBM. The fact that his preference may be more cultural than because of actual machine superiority is irritating. The fact that IBM may occupy its dominant market position because of monopolistic practices 20 years ago is more irritating. The fact that IBM dominates the PC market primarily because of its reputation is even more irritating. Enough said. Ethan Munson UCSD CS undergradute sdcsvax!sdcc6!ir462