Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ernie.berkeley.edu!mazlack From: mazlack@ernie.berkeley.edu (Lawrence J. Mazlack) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: mathematics of support pricing Message-ID: <13041@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 8-Apr-86 16:05:47 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13041 Posted: Tue Apr 8 16:05:47 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Apr-86 20:53:45 EST References: <2008@decwrl.DEC.COM> <106@kesmai.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mazlack@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Lawrence J. Mazlack) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 38 > >If you think *thats* bad, try the mathematics of buying a Macintosh XL >for $3999, then trading it for a Mac+ for $1499, not counting the >$600 512K memory board which doesn't have any trade-in value at all. >Not that we have that much choice, the XL is too slow and has no sound >generation. The question for the day is "How much did you pay for your Mac+??" > Kelton Flinn The analogy that several people posted to me is: How would you like to buy a GM car (a complete Lisa aka XL costed about that much: Lisa + memory board + software + printer) and then be told six months later by GM that (a) they have decided that making your car was a mistake, (b) they will do their best to ignore its existence, and (c) if you want a new, smaller one you can give them another $1499. In point of fact auto makers do not do this. When a model is abandoned, they usually establish a 10-15 year supply of parts for it. Ditto when an auto mfg goes out of business. It is still possible to buy Kaiser and Studebaker parts. As it turns out, you can also get service and parts for IBM 1401s, IBM 1620s, and IBM 704s (!!!) all of which are still in service, 20+ years after last manufacture and 15+ years after obselence. Why someone would want to do this is besides the point - but I have seen all of these critters still running in the last four years. (Note: being hacker orientated, I do not, myself, run on IBM equipment.) I have also seen a bunch of early PDP stuff still running - however, most of the PDP stuff is get going by university personnel - but, I guess, that DEC would do it for you as well. Larry Mazlack UUCP {tektronix,dual,sun,ihnp4,decvax}!ucbvax!ucbernie!mazlack New style mazlack@ernie.berkeley.edu ARPA | CSNET mazlack%ernie@berkeley.ARPA BITNET mazlack@ucbernie.BITNET telephone (415) 528-0496 snail CS Dept, 571 Evans, U. California, Berkeley, CA 94720