Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!glacier!oliveb!hplabs!hao!seismo!harvard!cmcl2!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group Subject: Re: net readership poll (discussion) Message-ID: <2300@phri.UUCP> Date: Sun, 30-Mar-86 12:15:51 EST Article-I.D.: phri.2300 Posted: Sun Mar 30 12:15:51 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 2-Apr-86 08:20:07 EST References: <5192@glacier.ARPA> <1994@hao.UUCP> <5249@glacier.ARPA> Reply-To: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 30 Xref: linus net.news:3913 net.news.group:4635 Summary: Non-readable .newsrc files skew results? In article <89@zeus.UUCP> bobr@zeus.UUCP (Robert Reed) points out 2 ways that arbitron will miscount: non-readable .newsrc files and people with accounts on several machines at a site, but who usually only read news at one of them. He claims that "in either of these cases the effect is systemic, reducing the percentages with without skewing towards any particular newsgroup." Looking around my site (about 100 users, maybe a dozen of which read news on a regular basis) I can divide the population into two groups. The sophisticated ones (by and large) know how to change the mode of their files, and can deal with the idea of accounts on multiple machines. The non-sophisticated users (the majority) have enough trouble figuring out how nroff works. The first group also has the people most likely to read the technical groups. Thus, I claim that both of the types of errors described by Robert discriminate against technical groups. Now, don't get me wrong. This is just anecdotal evidence with absolutely no hard data to back it up. At any rate, I suspect that the effect is quite small and not worth worrying about too much. I fully support Brian Reid's efforts to gather statistics, and have confidence that all the minor problems that have been pointed out will end up not making much difference (as long as the sample set is large enough). Will 2.10.3 support some kind of "sendstats" control message when it finally gets released? -- Roy Smith, {allegra,philabs}!phri!roy System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016