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From: ronc@fai.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian)
Newsgroups: net.rumor,net.news.adm
Subject: Re: Bring back net.bizarre!
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Date: Thu, 10-Apr-86 12:52:35 EST
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This topic started in net.rumor, but contains issues that
should be of interest to system administrators:

>It seems that most of the anti-weirdos are weird themselves.
>Examine Gene Spafford's comments on the "net takeover".  Is THAT the guy
>who removed net.bizarre?  And why does Andy Beals, KNOWN to be one of the
>less respected people for his habit of voraciously reading any hunk of
>data going through lll-crg, happen to sign off with "I'm proud to be a
>CARBON-BASED lifeform!"?
>So it seems that people will critcise others' faults without looking at
>themselves first..  Of course "fight fire with fire" could turn into "fight
>weirdness with weirdness", but that's just what the pyromaniacs/bizarroids
>want, right?
>							Carl Greenberg
***

No, wait a minute.  Reading other people's mail doesn't make you
anti-bizarre, it makes you slime.  I'm S/A at my second site now,
and I'm really concerned about what's happening to Usenet.  I've
sent off letters suggesting that the poster was in error on many
occasions, so I guess that makes me a net.fascist.  But read other
people's mail?  That's not net.policeman, that's net.abuse.of.root.

Don't confuse the issue of privacy with the issue of following Usenet
rules or being bizarre.  I contributed to net.bizarre when it was going,
but it rapidly degenerated into a low quality high volume newsgroup.
I was sorry to see it go, but the reasons were sound.  If the money
to transmit all that stuff came out of your own pocket, you might feel
differently.  However, simply because net.bizarre is gone, doesn't
mean that one can not be bizarre on occasion.  (Great article, Gene.)

BTW, I don't think "on occasion" means "it's OK to flood the net".

How do the rest of you system administrators feel?  Is it within your
rights to open other people's mail?


				Ron
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