Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 5/22/85; site cbosgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!mark From: mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) Newsgroups: net.news.adm,net.news.sa,net.sources.d Subject: Re: Beware of Blindly Un-SHARing a File Message-ID: <2033@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Apr-86 21:07:02 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.2033 Posted: Sat Apr 19 21:07:02 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Apr-86 01:50:08 EST References: <947@kitty.UUCP> <2407@prls.UUCP> <1439@garfield.columbia.edu> <2555@utcsri.UUCP> <2511@teddy.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Oh Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.news.adm:615 net.news.sa:275 net.sources.d:129 In article <2511@teddy.UUCP> jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) writes: >A reasonable substitute for shar would be the Berkeley "Portable AR" format, >which unfortunately has not been adopted by AT&T (at least not by System V, >maybe V.2?). It is a simple enough format that a program can be written to >extract files for those without a "portable" AR (in fact, I vaguely remember >someone DID do this several years ago - I'll have to root around in my old >net.sources tapes). It does not provide any directory heirarchy capability, >nor does it allow for automatic uuencode/uudecode of binary files, which >a good shar replacement should be able to do. To set the record straight, the portable archive format was invented by Dennis Ritchie (I think) and adopted by Berkeley. System V Release 2 also uses this archive format, as does V8. So it's widely (but not quite universally) available. A couple years ago, some members of the UUCP project wrote public domain programs to encode and decode these programs (par and unpar, they were called.) I think they were written by Paul Bame and Bill Welch. These programs were distributed back then. Only problem is my copy of Bill's unpar program has disappeared from my machine. If someone has a copy (are you out there, Bill? Mail is broken from cbosgd due to broken phone lines, so I can't just send you mail) we can assemble them and post them again. John points out some of the disadvantages of the portable archive format. The overwhelming advantage at the time is that, for lots of very small files, unpar is MUCH faster than the shell. Also, par preserves the owner and the write date. Mark