Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!glacier!oliveb!hplabs!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!john From: john@frog.UUCP (John Woods, Software) Newsgroups: net.columbia,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Escape tower for shuttle orbiter? Message-ID: <704@frog.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Mar-86 12:20:32 EST Article-I.D.: frog.704 Posted: Tue Mar 25 12:20:32 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Apr-86 04:54:12 EST References: <9696@ucla-cs.ARPA> <588@qantel.UUCP> <12286@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <418@watcgl.UUCP> <2582@genat.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Superfrog Heaven [ CRDS, Framingham MA ] Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.columbia:2742 net.philosophy:4790 > >> >... A much smaller escape tower motor could then be used. > >> I hate to sound callous, but ... Doesn't this seem a trifle excessive? > >You don't sound callous, you sound like a neanderthal SAVAGE! > The point is, that orbiters, though expensive are REPLACEABLE: Life, human > or otherwise, is not... > -- > The Phoenix > ---"A man should live forever...or die trying." Speaking as a Neanderthal SAVAGE here, the humans, though unique, are replacable as astronauts. To assign them an infinite value not only scraps the Shuttle, it scraps every conceivable activity, for no conceivable activity can have its risk reduced to zero. In the case of the Shuttle, you have astronauts willing to "die trying...to live forever" (to twist your .signature) because the Shuttle is a tool for learning things about a goal they strongly believe in. This is not to say that safety measures (yea, verily, even escape towers) are out of place -- if the Shuttle hardly worked at all, and killed 8 crews in 10, there would be scarcely anything that the Shuttle could teach which would be worth the loss. However, a safety measure which costs a great deal and offers only a tiny extra margin of safety (which an escape tower on the Shuttle appears to me to be, though I am quite willing to listen to engineering testimony to the contrary) just isn't worth the cost. -- John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (617) 626-1101 ...!decvax!frog!john, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw%mit-ccc@MIT-XX.ARPA This space dedicated to Challenger and her crew, Francis R. Scobee, Michael J. Smith, Ellison S. Onizuka, Judith Resnik, Ronald E. McNair, Gregory B. Jarvis, and Christa McAuliffe. "...and slipped the surly bonds of Earth to touch the face of God."