Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!brahms!weemba From: weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Matthew P. Wiener) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.physics Subject: Re: Does the moon exist? Message-ID: <12709@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 27-Mar-86 04:24:52 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12709 Posted: Thu Mar 27 04:24:52 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Mar-86 07:38:46 EST References: <12628@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <539@umich.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 23 Xref: watmath net.philosophy:4720 net.physics:3991 In article <539@umich.UUCP> torek@umich.UUCP (Paul V. Torek ) writes: >For a less mystifying view, see N. Maxwell, ``Are Probabilism and Special >Relativity Incompatible?'', _Philosophy of Science_ 198[4?]. He suggests >that wave-packet collapse occurs whenever the difference in rest-energy >between the possible collapsed states exceeds a certain value. His account >reproduces all the empirical successes of orthodox QM but gives different >predictions for certain as-yet-untested circumstances. More detailed >references available upon request. If it's not orthodox quantum mechanics, I doubt if it is correct. For one thing, it sounds like yet another hidden-variable theory. I do not consider J A Wheeler's views mystifying in the least. The hardest thing about learning twentieth century physics is not in understanding the new stuff but in forgetting the old stuff. Only with excess mental baggage can you be mystified by Wheeler's views. My own view is that wave-packet collapse is to the twentieth century what the luminiferous ether was to the nineteenth century. The only mystery is what the twenty first century will reveal about how odd our views today really are. ucbvax!brahms!weemba Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720