Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!brahms!weemba From: weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Matthew P. Wiener) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Thermodynamics / Statistical Physics Message-ID: <12736@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 28-Mar-86 04:01:57 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12736 Posted: Fri Mar 28 04:01:57 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Mar-86 00:58:46 EST References: <12662@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <541@umich.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 11 Xref: watmath net.physics:4000 net.philosophy:4740 In article <541@umich.UUCP> torek@zippy.UUCP (Paul V. Torek ) writes: >Heat is too the same thing as its microphysical realization, and it was >even 200 years ago. What are different are our *ideas* of temperature and >mean kinetic energy. Pardon my naive realism, but the idea of a thing >and the thing itself are different. No one denied that heat and td-heat (the microphysical realization of heat) are the same thing. Indeed I said as much in my article. What is unclear is whether 'heat' and 'td-heat' *mean* the same thing. ucbvax!brahms!weemba Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720