Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (David desJardins) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.origins Subject: Re: Bogus physics reamplified Message-ID: <12716@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 27-Mar-86 06:21:06 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12716 Posted: Thu Mar 27 06:21:06 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Mar-86 01:33:33 EST References: <368@ihnet.UUCP> <2057@jhunix.UUCP> <2874@sjuvax.UUCP> <446@3comvax.UUCP> <424@lanl.ARPA> <133@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 17 Keywords: general relativity, justifying assertions, name-calling Xref: watmath net.physics:3999 net.origins:2988 In article <133@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> vis@trillian.UUCP (Tom Courtney) writes: >Hmm, the way a foucalt pendumlum behaves proves that the earth is rotating? >I was taught that in school too, but then I read an article claiming that >if the universe rotated around the earth, the pendulum would do the same >thing. Sorry, I don't remember the article or justifications. Does anyone >have a proof, one way or the other? Yes, exactly. This is the point that Matt Wiener and others have been trying to make (I hope I can speak for him). From the fact that these two descriptions lead to the same result, we conclude that it is meaningless to say that the universe is rotating about the Earth (since it is equivalent to the simpler assumption that the Earth is rotating). Meaningless but definitely not wrong. For an intuitive (mathematically non-rigorous) derivation of this see MTW pp. 547-49. -- David desJardins