Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!seismo!brl-adm!brl-smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-smoke.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: The death of bogus physics Message-ID: <2192@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: Sat, 29-Mar-86 01:47:39 EST Article-I.D.: brl-smok.2192 Posted: Sat Mar 29 01:47:39 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Apr-86 07:17:44 EST References: <12603@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <2049@brl-smoke.ARPA> <12699@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.ARPA Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL) Lines: 43 In article <12699@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) writes: >In article <2049@brl-smoke.ARPA> gwyn@brl.ARPA writes: >>In answer to the fellow who wanted to know what the difference is >>between space and space-time: When one diagonalizes the symmetric >>part of the metric (the only part considered in normal general >>relativity) using real coordinate mappings, one of the four >>diagonal elements will have different sign than the other three. >>In the transformed (local Lorentz) frame, that coordinate will be >>associated with the direction of time while the other three are >>spatial. > >I don't believe this. The fellow asked for laymen's terms only. So? I would like a layman's explanation of how the universe works in 25 words or less, but I don't think it's very likely. The problem with simpler, inaccurate explanations is that one then has to work even harder to correct all the misperceptions that the oversimplified explanation produces. Since nobody had answered the question about "the difference between space and spacetime" (see! already a misperception) satisfactorily, I decided to supply an accurate answer as an aside to another posting. I really don't think this topic could be explained to a layman without many pages of discussion and examples, in any event; without resorting to something like my principal axes of the metric tensor explanation, a layman's explanation would sound something like: "At any place in the universe, at any time, there are three directions of space, which have no preferred alignment, and one direction of time. Time is that which a clock measures, and space can be measured by yardsticks." I don't think that would be particularly enlightening. Worse yet, a clever layman is likely to ask embarrassing questions such as: "Is there any place in the universe with only two space directions? Two space and two time? etc.?" Then one would have to explain more accurately anyway. If you think you can answer the layman's question better, please do so, and more power to you. "We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps." -- Firesign Theater, "I Think We're All Bozos On This Bus"