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From: king@kestrel.ARPA (Dick King)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Welfare
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Date: Fri, 21-Mar-86 12:57:28 EST
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   From: mahoney@bartok.DEC
   Newsgroups: net.politics
   Date: 17 Mar 86 19:56:27 GMT
   Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM

	2) When someone enters Welfare they immediately get put into
	   job training.  The person will have a number of choices.
	   If they do not have a high school eduction the first course
	   of action will be to get them one.  When they are trained
	   for the job then there will be job placement.  Now people
	   obviously won't be able to get great jobs when they start
	   so the government will help to compensate.  They gradually
	   lose the compensation as they move up the salary level.
	   Say they lose one dollar for every three dollars they make
	   over a certain level or something like that.

No!  The subsidy decreases at a statutory speed.  There should not be
a motivation to remain in a low-paying job!

       3) Now if a woman/or man lives alone and has children the
	  standards will be a little different.  If she has children
	  under 6 then she/he can stay home with them.  Once all the
	  kids are of school age then she also goes into job training.
	  Appropriate day care can be setup for when the children get
	  out of school to be paid by the state.

With one exception: no child conceived while on welfare or within six
months either way shall be counted, either for total benefits or for
determining things like whether there is a work requirement.


       6) To check up on abuses there would be people who would make
	  random checks.  They would make surprise visits to see that
	  everything is going alright on both ends.  Such as maybe the
	  people need something more or maybe a boy friend has moved
	  in.  This is sort of like a parole officer.  I think there
	  might be a better way of doing this but I can't think of it.
	  This seems a little dictatorial but I don't know a better
	  way.

This was rejected by the courts.  Seemed like a good idea to me...

      These is my idea for Welfare.  What do people see wrong with it?
      (outside of maybe being a little idealistic.) What would people
      add to/take away from it?

     Brian Mahoney

-dick