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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: In the Name of God
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Date: Wed, 26-Mar-86 13:09:58 EST
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Posted: Wed Mar 26 13:09:58 1986
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> > In article <600@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> > >> of these places and volunteer to fight.  Go on, join the Contras!
> > >
> > >That's illegal under U.S. law.
> > 
> > 	It is? What law? What about all the Americans who joined the Canadian
> > military and the RAF before the US was officially involved in WWII? What about
> > all the American mercenaries around the world today? 
> > 	Going somewhere to fight does not necessarily mean renouncing the
> > US - you don't have to join their army (and besides, the contras are not really
> > connected to any foreign government), you just have to fight.
> > 
> 
>    Besides which, you neatly evaded the point by crying foul.  You want the 
> Sandinistas whipped?  You want to puch Kaddafi around?  Go do it yourself,
> you son of a bitch!  Don't send the young men of our nation out to be killed
> for your goddamned political/military masturbations!!!!!!!
> 
>   (you're goddamned right this is a direct, personal attack!)
> 

1. You assume that I support Reagan's policies in Central America.  I do
not.

2. You assume that I support sending U.S. troops into Central America.
I do not.

3. Tom, you really need to READ BEFORE WRITING.  It makes all the difference
in the world.

> > >
> > >> I would also suggest that you folks should donate additionaly funds over and
> > >> above your legal tax burden, tagged specifically to go tot the terrorists.
> > >> *I* do not choose to support terrorism, regardless of the bullshit
> > >> euphemisms you care to use to disguise it.
> > >> 
> > >
> > >Also illegal under U.S. law.
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
>    Odd...it is exactly what the Reagan administration is encouraging wealthy
> conservatives to do...
> 

I oppose the law restricting the rights of Americans to donate time and
labor to whatever cause they feel like.  I would hope that would agree
that this sort of activity should be private, not governmental.

> > 	So just make a donation directly to the contras - that shouldn't
> > be illegal. Besides, it would be rather inefficient to do it through the
> > IRS anyway.
> 
>    I say, if you are going to support a war action, then you had better damned
> well be willing to go put *YOUR* ass on the fucking line!  I get sick and tired
> of your hawk-coward assholes who always want to send someone else in to do your
> dirty work!!!!
> 
> 
>    (flame me all you want for the personal attacks, the filthy language, the
> bad grammar...I don't care..sometimes a thing just has to be said in the 
> way is **HAS** to be said!!!)
> 
Actually, I'm going to flame you for the fact that you are a reactionary.
You are operating very emotionally, and reacting to things that I don't
believe in, and have never supported.  Is it so difficult to read what
people say before starting to blather?

> tom keller

Clayton E. Cramer

"In or out of Central America,
 the foreplay is killing us."