Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (David desJardins) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.legal Subject: Re: Making War Message-ID: <12768@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 29-Mar-86 06:13:31 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12768 Posted: Sat Mar 29 06:13:31 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Mar-86 10:40:13 EST References: <1753@decwrl.DEC.COM> <106@cad.UUCP> <2035@psuvax1.UUCP> <178@psc70.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.politics:14271 net.legal:3189 In article <178@psc70.UUCP> tos@psc70.UUCP (Dr.Schlesinger) writes: > As a practical matter the Constitutional provision regarding the >power of the Congress to "declare war" has been relatively meaningless >since the US signed the United Nations Charter. The latter outlaws any >use of force except self-defense or as part of either UN or regional >multi-national peacekeeping force. None of these exceptions are likely >to occur in circumstances which have in the past been deemed to >require a declaration of war -- or to even appropriately call for one. Pearl Harbor doesn't qualify as self-defense? Seriously, the point is that in recent history the US has not entered into a declared war except in situations were it was able to claim that it was acting in self-defense. Whether this was accurate or not is beside the point--if the American people accept that it qualifies as self-defense then the UN Charter is not going to be interpreted as a restriction on the US in that circumstance. -- David desJardins