Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site lutton.tcville.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!scgvaxd!tcville!ferris From: ferris@tcville.UUCP (Mark Ferris) Newsgroups: net.suicide,net.legal,net.religion Subject: Re: Painless Suicide Methods: Are we discussing an illegal topic? Message-ID: <159@lutton.tcville.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Mar-86 22:17:29 EST Article-I.D.: lutton.159 Posted: Thu Mar 27 22:17:29 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Apr-86 05:04:54 EST References: <430@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> <338@bambi.UUCP> Reply-To: ferris@tcville.UUCP (Mark Ferris) Organization: ISPL, Hughes AC, El Segundo, CA Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.suicide:969 net.legal:3196 net.religion:9807 C'mon people, this subject can't really be construed as a topic for humor. I would imagine that the majority of readers of net.suicide have at one point gone through a depressing enough period of their life that the word "suicide" at least went through their head. For those who have made it through that time and looking back realized how silly the notion of suicide actually is and how easy it may have been to go through with it, suicide is not funny. I know that joking about things often makes it easier to deal with. I disagree that that is something we want to do. Completely aside from any issues of legality, I believe strongly that suicide is morally wrong (look at 1 Kings and how God dealt with Elijiah went he said it would be better for him to die), and am convinced that no problem is _objectively_ that great that suicide is the only way out (granted it may be the easy way out). (many, many supporting points and reasons are left out of that statment, but I'll leave it as is) Primarily because suicide seems to be on the rise, particularly among teenagers, I think the issue is one to be examined gravely in light of why people do commit suicide, and why they though there was no other solution. Why do I read net.suicide? Certainly not to read jokes about it. I have a certain personal interest in depression and suicide, and I'm interested in how people have coped with and survived (not suicide explicitly, but the temptation to). I'm not sure, but I think I'm done for now. mdf -- Mark Ferris Proverbs 2:7 UUCP:1st choice: {allegra,cit-vax,seismo,cbosgd,ihnp4}!scgvaxd!tcville!ferris 2nd choice: {ucbvax,allegra,decvax }!sun!tsunami!tcville!ferris Arpa: scgvaxd!tcville!ferris@cit-vax.arpa MaBell: (213) 616-9076