Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mtx5a.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!akguc!mtunh!mtuni!mtune!mtunf!mtx5c!mtx5d!mtx5a!mat From: mat@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Historical Persecution of Jews Message-ID: <1256@mtx5a.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Mar-86 01:15:11 EST Article-I.D.: mtx5a.1256 Posted: Mon Mar 24 01:15:11 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Mar-86 09:43:47 EST References: <852@leadsv.UUCP> <532@mhuxm.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 32 Xref: lsuc net.religion.christian:406 net.religion.jewish:1942 > Personally, I believe that one should not discount the influence > of the Christian Churches. After all, during the Dark Ages the > only functioning institution was the Church (to some approximation). > And, the Church was virulently anti-Jewish during that time all > the way up to the sixties (the Catholic priests in Catholic > Europe did next to nothing to stop the Germans). The Church > still does not recognize the State of Israel. Hmm. I seem to recall a number of bishops and nuns who put their lives at stake helping Jews out of countries controlled by Nazis or quislings. What about the thousands of false baptismal certificates that were distributed? The fact is that almost nobody saw Naziism for what it was. Almost nobody in Europe OR North America believed the stories about the death camps. Only a few understood and they were ridiculed. Churchill, Stephenson, Rockefeller, FDR, Morgenthau, a few others. FDR LIED to the American people as he campaigned as a pacifist against a pacifist, while he secretly prepared this country for war. It was a courageous act, and the world owes him more than we can ever hope to repay. Churchill saw, and Stephenson the industrialist wandered in and out of Hitler's inner circle gathering information, seeing and hearing. But these were exceptions. Protestants in the US, Catholics, Jews who could not believe the rumors, all contributed to Hitler's success. Remember, it was an accident of birth, nothing more, that kept you from operating the killing centers. -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat (Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a! mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.