Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!mmar From: mmar@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Mitchell Marks) Newsgroups: net.sci,net.philosophy,net.nlang Subject: Re: Metaphysicians Message-ID: <1818@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Mar-86 11:48:35 EST Article-I.D.: sphinx.1818 Posted: Thu Mar 20 11:48:35 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Mar-86 07:26:37 EST References: <899@decwrl.DEC.COM> <402@aoa.UUCP> <192@ulowell.UUCP> Reply-To: mmar@sphinx.UUCP (Mitchell Marks) Organization: U Chicago Lines: 21 Xref: linus net.sci:352 net.philosophy:4302 net.nlang:3998 Summary: Wait wait, Sarima (Stanley)! It seems you're overlooking the heavy irony in Michael Ellis's posting. No, he didn't use smily faces, but the tone shows up nonetheless -- and anyway, he's not a stranger to the net, and you could guess what position he'd take. The two of you are on the same side here, if we boil it down to two sides (though you approach it differently). In philosophy, 'metaphysics' is no longer an insult, as it was in some circles earlier in this century. And I don't just mean in "funny Continental stuff" either, but in respectable Anglo-American stuff. In that context, it does not mean theology, it does not mean parapsychology, etc. Example. From the flap blurb for Parsons's (technical, respectable, very formal) book _Nonexistent Objects_ : "Using various modern techniques from logic and the philosophy of language, he formulates a metaphysical theory of nonexistent objects." I quote the jacket copy because it's convenient, but the author says the same thing. Neither he nor his publisher is out to deride his work, or call it airy and sloppy, etc. -- -- Mitch Marks @ UChicago ...ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!mmar