Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!nsc!voder!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.sci,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Value of therapy Message-ID: <617@kontron.UUCP> Date: Tue, 18-Mar-86 12:56:01 EST Article-I.D.: kontron.617 Posted: Tue Mar 18 12:56:01 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 31-Mar-86 04:16:42 EST References: <899@decwrl.DEC.COM> <402@aoa.UUCP> <192@ulowell.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Mt. View, CA Lines: 28 Xref: linus net.sci:355 net.philosophy:4317 > In article <> rwl@uvacs.UUCP (Ray Lubinsky) writes: > >> >Clinical and Applied Psychology. > >> > >> I wish this were more of a "taboo" than it is. Studies show that as many > >> people are hurt as are helped by therapy. > > > >I don't what study you're talking about, but I have heard that most (70% or > >more) of people who have attended therapy/councilling found it beneficial. > >Therapy is much maligned by people who have no personal experience with it > >-- in fact, by otherwise rational and intelligent people. > > > >Perhaps you should keep an open mind about topics in which you are less > >qualified than others to pass judgment -- even personal judgment. I've been > >involved in therapy and found it to be very helpful. > >-- > For what it is worth there are studies which purport to show > that the spontaneous remission rate for disturbences severe > enough that therapy is considered appropriate is on the order > of 65% -- i.e. that 'no treatment' is as effective as therapy. > A reference is 'The Case Against Psychoanalysis', which is > about 20 years old. I have a copy in my vast and disorderly > library which I can't find immediately. If there is interest > I will try to dig it up and post more details. > > Richard Harter, SMDS Inc. Ditto. I've read that the spontaneous cure rate for schizophrenia is 33%. The psychoanalytic cure rate is 35%. Big improvement.