Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!nsc!voder!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.sci,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Value of therapy Message-ID: <675@kontron.UUCP> Date: Mon, 31-Mar-86 21:01:12 EST Article-I.D.: kontron.675 Posted: Mon Mar 31 21:01:12 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Apr-86 11:26:18 EST References: <617@kontron.UUCP> <560@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Mt. View, CA Lines: 26 Xref: watmath net.sci:697 net.philosophy:4905 > In article <617@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP writes: > > [With regard to the performance of psychotherapy] > > > I've read that the spontaneous cure rate for schizophrenia is > >33%. The psychoanalytic cure rate is 35%. Big improvement. > > It's been known for some time now that therapy is of little use in the > treatment of schitzophrenia. THere are numerous other signs, including its > responsiveness to drug treatment, which suggest that it represents a > neurochemical problem. > > Even so, the conclusions that can be drawn from this are quite limited in > scope. Using this to cast aspersions upon psychotherapy is an error of a > type we commonly see in n.philo, an error in generalization. In this case, > there is little reason to presume that all psychological disturbances are > similar both in nature and in cause. > > C. Wingate Actually, I wasn't casting an aspersion on psychotherapy for treating all forms of disturbance and mental illness. I was following up on someone else's comments that were somewhat more negative and all encompassing than mine. I was adding data to the discussion, not necessarily taking sides. (Although I doubt the value of psychotherapy in treating psychoses like schizophrenia.)