Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!weemba From: weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Matthew P. Wiener) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.sci,net.jokes.d,net.women,net.nlang Subject: Re: Satire for the masses Message-ID: <13006@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 6-Apr-86 18:38:10 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13006 Posted: Sun Apr 6 18:38:10 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 9-Apr-86 21:04:29 EST References: <435@ccivax.UUCP> <13400007@uiucdcsp> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) Followup-To: net.jokes.d Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.philosophy:4953 net.sci:705 net.jokes.d:1650 net.women:10018 net.nlang:4396 In article <1261@mtx5a.UUCP> mat@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) writes: >> A lot of people seem to be having trouble recognizing satire. . . . > >Sorry, weemba, the problem is not with good satire. Agreed. > This >is bad, because it means that our bad satire is taken as non-satire. And THIS >is very bad. Very, very bad because it can cause some awful hurt feelings. >Did you see the ``We're out to get you, Cheryl'' article? Satire MUST be read >as satire, even if it is not written as satire. Hence the need for the smiley. Hence my article! People will continue to write bad satire and leave off :-)s. I was asking people to listen to that little warning bell --GONG-- in the back of their heads, in order to save themselves confusion and hurt. Not only did I see the article mentioned, I remember the followup stated that as there were no :-)s involved, it obviously wasn't satire, hence the flame. (I should point satire isn't always humorous.) ucbvax!brahms!weemba Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720