Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dartvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!dartvax!kevins From: kevins@dartvax.UUCP (Kevin M. Schofield) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Universities, and high school education Message-ID: <4337@dartvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Mar-86 19:46:11 EST Article-I.D.: dartvax.4337 Posted: Mon Mar 24 19:46:11 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Mar-86 04:16:11 EST References: <3207@sdcc3.UUCP> <12576@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: kevins@dartvax.UUCP (Kevin M. Schofield) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 64 Keywords: institutions, learning Summary: I have several points to make. Please excuse me if I repeat something that was said in the past, although I doubt that I will. 1. The purpose of any institution is to "process" persons so that they will be able to carry out some action that the institution thinks is worthwhile. This goes for ALL institutions. I know it sounds nasty, but that's what it all comes down to. 2. The purpose of educational institutions is to process persons so that they can function in society. This processing involves giving many things to the student, including knowledge, skills, and yes, an idea of that person's place in society. Schools aren't there just for academics; they are also there to socialize the students ( note: socializing has nothing to do with socialism directly). 3. There are lots of problems with the educational system. Money, bad teachers, overcrowding, you all know this list by heart. But on top of that, I feel the real problem is that there is no agreement on exactly what should be taught in schools. The process is undefined, so the result is also undefined. This all sounds very depressing, so let me shine a spotlight on a positive part of today's education. I know from firsthand experience that there are students who simply want to learn. I work on a volunteer basis with a fantastic organization called the California Association of Student Councils, and one of their sub-programs is called the Student Advisory Board on Education, which proposes ideas for improving education to the CA. State Board of Education. At their recent conference, which I was privileged to work at, someone proposed a system where students could audit classes and there would be no credit for the class and no effect upon the student's GPA. After some explanation of the details of the proposal, one student from the back of the room asked, " If there is no credit and no effect on the GPA, why would anyone WANT to audit a class?" And the immediate response from the presentor was, "Just to learn." The room was silent for a moment, then suddenly everyone broke into laughter. It hadn't occurred to a room full of some of the brightest students in California that someone would want to take a class "just to learn." By the way, the Board liked the idea, and immediately put it on next month's agenda. The education system shapes eveyone's lives, and indeed shapes the future. And unfortunately in a Democracy where everyone has a right to think and act differently, creating an education system that suits everyone is damn near impossible. All we can do is hope that someone comes up with a solution. And fast. I encourage all replies. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There may be no heaven, but somewhere there is a San Francisco." Kevin M. Schofield '88 email: {decvax,ihnp4} !dartvax!kevins U.S. Mail: College: H.B. 2908, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755 Real World: 1851 Vallejo Street, St.Helena, CA 94574 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------