Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site peora.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!hjuxa!petsd!peora!jer From: jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Thoreau (Reply to Dan Asimov) Message-ID: <2050@peora.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Mar-86 16:15:44 EST Article-I.D.: peora.2050 Posted: Wed Mar 26 16:15:44 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Mar-86 05:31:22 EST References: <688@hounx.UUCP> Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation, Orlando, Fl Lines: 56 > Galileo, Spinoza, and Thoreau were ostracized by the entrenched > authorities. Thoreau spent a night in jail for his civil disobediance. > He exiled hmself to Waldon [sic.] Pond to seek his Utopian goal. I think this description of Thoreau is a somewhat political one. Thoreau did spend a night in jail (he wanted to stay in longer, but his aunt bailed him out against his wishes) because he refused to pay his taxes due to his objection to a war (I think the Spanish-American war, if I remember correctly... a war that tended to be generally unpopular and which, again if my rusty memory of history is right, was inspired largely by "yellow journalism"). This has apparently gained him a reputation among the civilly-disobedient as one of the revolutionaries. However, I don't think Thoreau was in any sense "ostracized by the entrenched authorities." He did have his (usually philosophical) clashes with authorities, and in fact perpetrated criminal acts by assisting several slaves in escaping to Canada. However, he more commonly was *pursued* by the "entrenched authorities," who often wanted to sign him up as honorary members of their various societies, or to have him speak before various assemblies. He didn't particularly like this [though he did enjoy lecturing if he felt anybody understood what he was talking about], especially when he was admitted, without first asking his permission, into some organization as an "honorary member" (something some famous societies we know of do in order to claim they have "famous people" as members :-)), and eventually went so far as to publish a legal notice in the Concord newspaper saying that he refused to be a member of any organization he hadn't himself joined. Thus, I think Thoreau's tendency to maintain himself somewhat aloof from society was by choice, not by ostracism. He went to Walden not to implement some utopian society, but just to have time to think, to better know himself, and to write. He eventually left it and went back to live with Emerson's family in Concord, and to publish his 2nd book, "Walden, or, Life in the Woods" (his first book, "A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers," had been a commercial failure). I suspect he would be somewhat displeased to know that he is now counted by some among the revolutionaries (though you can never tell; he might have enjoyed it as a springboard for a philosophical discourse... yet if you think of what he wrote of reformers ("if you find yourself betrayed into [participation in some reform-oriented group], let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing, for it is not worth knowing. Rescue the drowning and tie your shoelaces.")). "There is a new dawn lurking behind every horizon at noontide. There are eyes that see the sparkling dews, and ears that hear the drowsy crickets even then. Only that day dawns to which we are awake. There is more day to dawn. The sun is but a morning star." -- original conclusion to Walden, revised before first publication. -- E. Roskos "It's Halley's comet!"