Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site oddjob.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!oddjob!matt From: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: how to go non-dutch ? Message-ID: <1260@oddjob.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Mar-86 14:11:10 EST Article-I.D.: oddjob.1260 Posted: Thu Mar 27 14:11:10 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Apr-86 07:37:32 EST Reply-To: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) Organization: U. Chicago, Astronomy & Astrophysics Lines: 32 There was a discussion recently about "who pays" and it seemed to be a common opinion that dates are, by default, assumed to be dutch. Well, that's not how it was when I was a teenager, but that doesn't make it wrong. But it does give me a problem ... Having recently been a student and still being at a university I come into social contact with many students. They usually have very limited financial means, while I am newly flush. I prefer to pay a greater share of the costs rather than to reduce the frequency of going out to what others can afford. Since I have a better time with some company than I would have by spending even five times the money alone, occasionally treating others does not bother me at all. With a group of friends it is easy to do this without giving the impression that it is charity, by offering the excuse that I am celebrating something (completion of a project, tax refund, solstice). I find it more difficult to gracefully pay the way on a date, especially with a new person. Mind you, I don't try to pay for everything just for the sake of doing so, but there are times when it is obvious that another person just can't spare the money. So I ask these two questions: How do you make clear when asking for a date that you not asking the cost to be shared? And how can you avoid someone's feeling indebted? _____________________________________________________ Matt University crawford@anl-mcs.arpa Crawford of Chicago ihnp4!oddjob!matt Somewhere in suburban Honolulu, an unemployed bellhop is whipping up a batch of illegal psilocybin chop suey!!