Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 Tandy Xenix 02/17/86; site gilbbs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!qantel!ptsfa!gilbbs!mc68020 From: mc68020@gilbbs.UUCP (Tom Keller) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: where are the aliens headed?? Message-ID: <123@gilbbs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Mar-86 22:27:16 EST Article-I.D.: gilbbs.123 Posted: Wed Mar 26 22:27:16 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Mar-86 05:41:52 EST References: <8603210822.AA02367@s1-b.arpa> <12519@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Gil's Place, Santa Rosa CA Lines: 42 Summary: light speed seems to be the argument against meeting aliens on a similar or higher level of technology I wish to open this discussion by pointing out that I personally would very much like to meet intelligent aliens. I think it would be a wonderful adventure, though I confess that the prospect does frighten me at the same time. I do not, however, *EXPECT* to meet any intelligent aliens. The reason is really quite simple: If we assume for the sake of argument that the speed of light is in fact a velocity beyond which we cannot accelerate a mass, and that an intelligent alien lifeform would most probably have developed some form of electromagnetic communications, we come to the inescapable conclusion that we won't be running into them for a **VERY** long while, even if they *DO* exist (oh, I *HOPE* they do!). Presumably, either they would have detected our emissions, and started on an exploratory expedition sometime in the past 100 years or so, or we would be detecting their emissions. The fact that we are not detecting such emissions argues that if such emissions were there, the source must be a considerable distance from us ( I would argue at least 50-100 lightyears). Even assuming that a startdrive which achieves a significant percentage of lightspeed is available, this implies that it would require anywhere from 150 to 600 years, minimum, for them to travel here. Likewise for us to travel there. Thus, I predict that *IF* we find intelligent life in the universe, it will likely be *VERY* far into our future, and ***VERY VERY*** far away. I think this is a pity, but it does seem inescapable. -- ==================================== Disclaimer: I hereby disclaim any and all responsibility for disclaimers. tom keller {ihnp4, dual}!ptsfa!gilbbs!mc68020 (* we may not be big, but we're small! *)