Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ai.ai.mit.edu!KFL From: KFL@AI.AI.MIT.EDU ("Keith F. Lynch") Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Dyson spheres Message-ID: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].22300.860329.KFL> Date: Sat, 29-Mar-86 12:08:38 EST Article-I.D.: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].22300.860329.KFL> Posted: Sat Mar 29 12:08:38 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Apr-86 05:07:21 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 28 From: Paul Dietz How about getting mass from the sun? It's about 2% "metals" (elements heavier than helium) by mass, or about 6000 times the mass of the earth in heavy elements. Granted, there are engineering problems (!), but we're in fantasy mode anyway and have lots of energy to play with. This is kind of hard to imagine. What would they collect it with that wouldn't burn up? Of course they might simply mine it out of the solar wind. But I think getting it from other solar systems would be easier, especially if they are in no hurry. Another possibility would be to turn the sunlight into matter. This would create equal amounts of antimatter, but the antimatter could be gradually dropped into the sun to increase its brightness slightly. In fact they would get back just the amount of light that they used to build the thing in the first place! >If you make the foil just the right thickness, the Sun's gravity and the >light pressure exactly balance, and the foil will remain stationary. Not if you absorb the sunlight and radiate it as waste heat. The energy flowing out must equal the energy flowing in, so the radiation pressures will balance. No. Each part of the sphere radiates heat equally in all directions, so there is no net pressure from that. ...Keith