Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!gatech!akgua!akguc!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!mtx5c!mtx5d!elb From: elb@mtx5d.UUCP Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: The Managerie Message-ID: <749@mtx5d.UUCP> Date: Tue, 18-Mar-86 10:52:18 EST Article-I.D.: mtx5d.749 Posted: Tue Mar 18 10:52:18 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Mar-86 07:51:25 EST References: <1661@decwrl.DEC.COM> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 26 > [discussion of final scene in the Menagerie with Vina AND Pike] > > The scene was filmed for THE MENAGERIE not for THE CAGE. If you will notice > they don't let you see Pike's face clearly and you can also tell it is > somebody else if you look close. > > Steve Sorry Steve but, I believe if you read the Blish novelization you will see that the original story (which he uses as the basis of his version) ends with the Talosians giving Vina back her beauty *AND* giving her a copy of Pike. This is the motivation behind the Keeper-Pike exchange Pike: Will you give her back her illusion of beauty? Keeper: And *more* ! The "More" makes no sense if you say this scene was filmed for The Menagerie. Am I missing some hard evidence of another viewpoint? Ellen Bart