Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: UNIX Futures Message-ID: <1081@psivax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Apr-86 11:13:36 EST Article-I.D.: psivax.1081 Posted: Wed Apr 2 11:13:36 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Apr-86 07:40:46 EST References: <3289@sun.UUCP> <57700002@hpcvlo.UUCP> <127@sering.mcvax.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 24 In article <127@sering.mcvax.UUCP> dpk@sering.UUCP (Doug Kingston) writes: >Shell layers is a way to get around not having true windowing. If you >have a real windowing system, then you don't need shell layers. As has >been mentioned by others, shell layers are deficient in several areas. > >As for Berkeley job control, this is another matter. As a mechanism >for handling multiple jobs simultaneously, it is a poor second to >a true windowing system. I know. I use BLIT terminals and SUN-like >workstations every day. I agree, a windowing system is the best solution. The question is, can a practical windowing system be designed to work on a normal 24 X 80 ASCII terminal without graphics capability? Not everyone can afford fancy stuff like BLIT's and SUN's. We only have about three of them here at Pacesetter and they are reserved for CAD/CAE work! I am stuck with a normal terminal. In the absence of a windowing system for such terminals Berkeley job control is far better than what is available on Sys V. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa