Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-adm!brl-smoke!smoke!gregg%a.cs.okstate.edu@csnet-relay.arpa From: gregg%a.cs.okstate.edu@csnet-relay.arpa (Gregg Wonderly) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Windowing systems Message-ID: <2644@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: Mon, 14-Apr-86 19:41:01 EST Article-I.D.: brl-smok.2644 Posted: Mon Apr 14 19:41:01 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Apr-86 03:52:16 EST Sender: news@brl-smoke.ARPA Lines: 38 The biggest problem with windowing seems to be the lack of knowledge that the kernel has about the users environment. It seems that several people have essentially indicated that a more generic communications means should exist between the kernel and the users terminal. It seems most natural to develope some sort of protocol for the kernel, and have much smarter terminals to decipher it. A protocol including info about the process doing the I/O, as well as other data would be needed. This gives rise to the question of terminal type. This provides quite a few problems because EVERYBODY would want to define their own protocol. I have seen a SUN workstation, and imagine that something of this nature is used there. Picking a very flexible workstation as a terminal is the logical choice. I would like to have some information on systems doing this type of system/user communication. Please limit yourselves to multiuser systems, as this is where the issue resides. A single user micro can be as elegant as you desire, because there is generally one screen. Areas of interest would probably include the VAX workstation, the SUN workstation, BLIT's, and perhaps the ATT 7300/3B1. I will submit a summary if the responses warrant it. I feel that it is time to start making some decisions on a standard, more elegant mainframe environment, and stop all of this "My systems better than yours" crap. If you think your system is better, than tell me why. Please send your responses to me instead of posting them here. My net-mail address is given below. Gregg Wonderly Department of Computing and Information Sciences Oklahoma State University UUCP: {cbosgd, ea, ihnp4, isucs1, mcvax, uokvax}!okstate!gregg ARPA: gregg%okstate.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA or ARPA: gregg@A.CS.OKSTATE.EDU