Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-trillian.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!mit-trillian!vis From: vis@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU (Tom Courtney) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers,net.cog-eng,net.ai Subject: Re: alive computers (HAL_from_IBM_P) Message-ID: <339@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 26-Apr-86 12:32:29 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-tril.339 Posted: Sat Apr 26 12:32:29 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Apr-86 06:49:14 EDT References: <154@lutton.tcville.UUCP> <601@qantel.UUCP> Reply-To: vis@trillian.UUCP (Tom Courtney) Distribution: net Organization: MIT, Project Athena, Cambridge, MA Lines: 15 Keywords: creativity Xref: watmath net.sf-lovers:13548 net.cog-eng:666 net.ai:3430 In article <276@euclid.warwick.UUCP> gordon@euclid.UUCP (Gordon Joly) writes: >In article <1800@mtgzz.UUCP> Mark leeper says:- > >> I talked to Clarke about 2001 in 1969 and he brought up the HAL/IBM >> question himself. He said that it was just a surprising coincidence. > >With odds of 1/8788 against, maybe it was more a case of subconscious >reasoning, as in Kekule's discovery of the structure of the benzene >molecule, and in the deciphering of Samuel Pepys' diaries. And the odds >must also take into account strings like S*X or BCA, musn't they? > The odds probably weren't so bad. Suppose Clarke was looking for a three letter acronym that was actually a name? Then he's restricted to a much smaller set of possibilities (HAL, SAL, SAM, ART, etc... [not ETC]). Furthermore, after the fact, lots of things look like the odds were too horrendous to be coincidence.