Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!beth From: beth@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (JB) Newsgroups: net.bio,net.origins Subject: Re: Bipedalism Message-ID: <71@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Apr-86 18:45:40 EST Article-I.D.: sphinx.71 Posted: Mon Apr 21 18:45:40 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Apr-86 21:20:13 EST References: <487@bcsaic.UUCP> <1002@cybvax0.UUCP> <32@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <1109@psivax.UUCP> Reply-To: beth@sphinx.UUCP (JB) Distribution: net Organization: U.of Chicago Computation Center, Operating Systems Group Lines: 29 Xref: watmath net.bio:396 net.origins:3028 [If God had wanted us to go around naked, we'd have been BORN that way.] In article <1109@psivax.UUCP> friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) writes: >In article <32@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Beth Christy writes: >>[] >> >> Humans have no natural enemies and hence do not need >>the speed advantage for survival. I'm under the impression (although I >>could, of course, be wrong) that there were no species which preyed on >>the bipedal dinosaurs either (or if there were, escape was not the >>dinosaurs' defense). >> > Much of this is simply not true. Many herbivorous dinosaurs >of the group known as Ornithopods are bipedal and lack any defense >except running. Examples include such famous forms as Camptosaurus and >Hypselophodon. And while modern Humans have no natural enemies, the >earliest Hominids *did*, and they were already bipedal. Our current >lack of predators is due to our success, not the other way around. My mistake - sorry for the misinformation. Just out of curiosity, what creatures preyed on early Hominids, and how do we know? Same question(s) for Ornithopods. (Sorry for my ignorance here - I'm just a casual reader.) -- --JB ((Just) Beth Christy, U. of Chicago, ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!beth) All we learn from history is that we don't learn anything from history.