Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site toram.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!toram!chris From: chris@toram.UUCP (Chris Robertson) Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: Re: Bipedalism Message-ID: <147@toram.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Apr-86 12:15:20 EST Article-I.D.: toram.147 Posted: Thu Apr 24 12:15:20 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Apr-86 17:47:40 EST References: <1287@ihuxe.UUCP> Reply-To: chris@toram.UUCP (Chris Robertson) Distribution: net Organization: Toram/Globe-Tek Systems Ltd., Toronto, Canada Lines: 32 Summary: In article <1287@ihuxe.UUCP> krista@ihuxe.UUCP (K.J.Anderson) writes: > > ...The strain on the biped's back while pregnant is >significant ... > These factors are irrelevant to reptiles and birds since they lay >eggs. So now I'm wondering about marsupials, particularly the >kangaroo. Her joey is born while still an embryo and completes its >development in the pouch. This would alleviate the miscarriage >problem, but it seems that the mother would still have the leg and >back problems. Although kangaroos are bipedal, they actually spend a lot of time on all fours while grazing,* or lying on their sides resting. Upright stance is normally taken during running (hopping, actually), and when sitting up on their haunches looking about. Otherwise, 'roos are pretty laid-back creatures (pun intended). Hence, the joey is mostly carried slung under the mother's body, and when she sits up, the pouch is actually resting on the ground. So they don't have the same sort of strain on the lower back that people do. A baby 'roo is so tiny at birth (less than 1") that its weight is negligible. Joeys, however, still like to cram into the pouch when all they can fit inside is their behind, with head and legs hanging out in a tangle! * back legs are taking the weight, front ones used mainly for balance, but body posture is essentially horizontzal. -- Christine Robertson {ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!toram!chris An apple a day keeps the doctor away, especially if aimed well.