Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxf!mhuxi!mhuhk!mhuxt!evans From: evans@mhuxt.UUCP (crandall) Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: bipedalism Message-ID: <840@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-May-86 12:51:28 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxt.840 Posted: Sun May 4 12:51:28 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 6-May-86 05:05:14 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Lines: 18 For those of you interested in the subject I suggest readings on pygmy chimps (Pan paniscus). They appear more similar to humans than the common chimp and, interestingly, use more bipedal locomotion. Interestingly, they do so in trees. Please, also remember that a tree-dwelling lifestyle can be very condusive to the pre-adaptation of an upright carriage. Suggest reading Randall Susman's work on Australopithecine hands (in particular, A. afarensis) which indicates that they still made ample use of trees. This is followed by plain logic which notes that useing trees for sleep or escape can be helpful in a large number of preditor avoidance situations. How about a new subject in hominids. I'd like to see a discussion of conditions which would be condusive to birthing totally dependent infants (besides the obvious birth cannal/ bipedal locomotor efficiency statement). For example, does anyone know of any animals with dependent infants which does NOT find a way of storing them away in a shelter of eyrie at times? How many do NOT have a support group (mate, troop,etc)? Sukie Crandall