Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!parcvax!bane From: bane@parcvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: Re: the Goal of evolution Message-ID: <312@parcvax.Xerox.COM> Date: Mon, 12-May-86 19:16:11 EDT Article-I.D.: parcvax.312 Posted: Mon May 12 19:16:11 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 15-May-86 07:35:34 EDT References: <487@bcsaic.UUCP> <1002@cybvax0.UUCP> <32@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <1469@ecsvax.UUCP> Organization: Xerox PARC Lines: 27 Re: "Tigers (or whatever it was) don't have claws because they hunt, they hunt because they have claws." Well, I agreed with the rest of that article (I can't find it now, darn it!), but I disagree with this part ... give a rabbit claws, and I don't think it will start stalking birds. Take away a tiger's claws, and it will still try to hunt, only not successfully. I think that a more accurate statement might be: Hunting and claws developed together in the ancestor of the tiger. Those animals with claws hunted better than those without, and so the trait of claws was passed on. Better claws made better hunters, and hunting encouraged better claws. What I'd like to know is: although the expansion of the brain (of our ancestors) into the current size (of humans) is apparently the most phenomenal (in terms of a relatively small number of generations) change known, the change from generation to generation was no more than a fingernail clipping in volume. How could that have made a difference in terms of selection? This is one of those, we'll never really know questions, I guess. The only thing I can think of is changes in structure as well as volume, or something. - rene -- Rene P S (nee Steiner) Bane bane@parcvax