Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.bio,net.origins,net.philosophy Subject: Re: the Goal of evolution Message-ID: <1216@psivax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 23-May-86 15:41:35 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.1216 Posted: Fri May 23 15:41:35 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 24-May-86 19:29:11 EDT References: <487@bcsaic.UUCP> <1002@cybvax0.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Distribution: na Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 24 Xref: decwrl net.bio:537 net.origins:3259 net.philosophy:5505 In article <265@spar.UUCP> ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) writes: >> Paul Torek >> Frank Adams > >>> "Evolution" per se has no goals; >>>but I think it makes sense to say that the species which are evolving do >>>have a goal: to survive. (And the individuals of the species have the more >>>complex goal of perpetuating their genes.) >> >>Not me. Not my cat. Not most animals, I'll wager. > > Are you seriously trying to tell us that most animals do not possess > basic survival instincts? > I think you misunderstood him. I rather think he is denying the stuff in the parentheses, namely he is saying that he and his cat do not have the goal of perpetuating thier genes. Of course his cat has the goal of surviving! But it may be doubted that it is attempting to transmit its genes. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ??