Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (David desJardins) Newsgroups: net.crypt,net.politics Subject: Re: Who can be secure? Message-ID: <13481@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Mon, 28-Apr-86 06:11:27 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13481 Posted: Mon Apr 28 06:11:27 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 1-May-86 03:31:42 EDT References: <3221@reed.UUCP> <13462@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 26 Keywords: 1 time pads, 1 time pads, 1 time pads, ... Xref: watmath net.crypt:688 net.politics:15360 In article <13462@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) writes: >> Assuming the information about breaking new Libyan codes within weeks >> is correct, does that imply that the NSA is >> stellar at the job it does, or that the Libyans use weak >> crypto-systems? > >The Libyans use weak crypto-systems. I disagree. They may or may not, but this is not the point. The reason we can break their codes within weeks is most likely because their key security is poor, not because they use a weak system. >> Is it realistically possible today for a small country or a large >> company to independently secure its communications from organizations >> such as NSA or the Soviet equivalent? > >Yes. Again, I disagree, with some reservations. For small, extremely important messages, one-time pads will do just fine. And from a theoretical point of view Tom is certainly correct. But I think he (like many academic crypto- graphy types) underestimates the practical problems of key security for large volumes of routine transmissions. -- David desJardins