Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!hpda!hpisoa2!hpitg!portal!phil@portal From: phil%portal@portal.UUCP Newsgroups: net.dcom Subject: Re: Response to <1703@sdcsvax.UUCP> <11465@amdcad.UUCP> Message-ID: <142@portal> Date: Wed, 30-Apr-86 13:32:00 EDT Article-I.D.: portal.142 Posted: Wed Apr 30 13:32:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 11-May-86 16:29:22 EDT References: <1703@sdcsvax> Lines: 35 In article <280@mit-vax.UUCP>, romkey@mit-vax.UUCP (John Romkey) writes: > In article <137@portal.UUcp> phil@portal.UUcp (Phil Sih) writes: > >In article <1703@sdcsvax.UUCP>, brian@sdcsvax.UUCP (Brian Kantor) writes: > >> In microcomputer file transfer use (kermit and xmodem) it works pretty > >> well. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to run all that fast! Apparently > >> the packetising and turnaround delay are enough that the protocol > >> doesn't run at anywhere near full speed because its waiting for the > >> acknowledgement of the previous packet. Undoubtably a protocol that ... > >> their modem's time delays and error correction characteristics. I > >> didn't test it. > > > >The limit on file xfers in this case may not be the modem/comm line. I heard > >Telebit needed the special version of Crosstalk because the PC could not > >keep up with the data rate from the modem. Also, since the Trailblazer > >protocol is reliable, there is no need for host level packet acks. You > > Must be something to do with the way Crosstalk handles interrupts, then, > because I've run a (normal) PC's serial line at 19.2kbps without much problem > ARPA: romkey@borax.lcs.mit.edu Boston, MA, 02142 I talked to someone from Telebit recently and depending on the PC involved the throughput limit can be PC system/software related, but in any case will be related to the higher level acknowledgements for protocols such as xmodem. The problems of protocol interaction can I was told be solved by chaging the high level protocol to avoid the unnecessary acks. Some of the PC throughput limits can be avoided by writing software that does not use some of the more CPU expensive system facilities such as a BDOS call or Macintosh 'resources' for doing things like updating the screen. If anyone is considering trying to use V.32 modems I would recommend you try them first. I have heard from users there are big difficulties getting the things to work over the switched network and they may become unusable when the interoffice (CO) links start using lower bandwidth (32k) adaptive PCM. Anyone got any experience or info on this?