Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!hpda!hpisoa2!hpitg!mtxinu!ed@mtxinu From: ed%mtxinu@mtxinu.UUCP Newsgroups: net.dcom Subject: Re: Thin Ethernet really works... Message-ID: <1@mtxinu> Date: Thu, 24-Apr-86 02:03:00 EDT Article-I.D.: mtxinu.1 Posted: Thu Apr 24 02:03:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 11-May-86 16:32:41 EDT References: <735@hoptoad> Lines: 34 In article <735@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: >I can see why 3Com pushed Thin Ethernet -- it's easy and the parts >are available locally. For all I know, Radio Shack has what you need. I didn't check radio shack since I didn't think they would have the stuff. TV cable is *not* Ethernet cable. TV cable is 75 ohm and uses F series connectors, Ethernet is 50 ohm. A local electronics store (Al Lasher's in Berkeley) had most of the parts I needed. They didn't stock the BNC-to-N adapters, though. Neither did they have RG-58/CU cable, which is what 3Com recommends. They did have RG-58/AU, which is slightly less flexible, has lower capacitance and a higher propogation speed. It works, too, at least for our small network (Vax, microvax, sun, PC). >Why did xeroX go with expensive custom cabling originally? They figured >that standard TV style thin cables wouldn't permit a big enough network? There are differences in the physical and electrical characteristics of the cables. The thin stuff is *much* more fragile than the thick, and stinger-tap transcievers (like everyone but 3Com sells) are easier to install on the thick stuff. On the other hand, thin cable cost me about $80 for 500 feet (of the aforementioned RG-58/AU); Inmac sells RG-58/CU for $.23/foot ($115/500 ft) in bulk and thick cable for $1.40/foot ($700/500 ft - both prices are for 500-1000 foot lengths). The electrical differences relate to things like total network length and distance between nodes. I don't know the details. -- Ed Gould mt Xinu, 2910 Seventh St., Berkeley, CA 94710 USA {ucbvax,decvax}!mtxinu!ed +1 415 644 0146 "A man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality."