Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!clewis From: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: drug testing Message-ID: <3368@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Apr-86 19:03:03 EST Article-I.D.: mnetor.3368 Posted: Wed Apr 23 19:03:03 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Apr-86 00:21:08 EST References: <381@houligan.UUCP> <131@drutx.UUCP> Reply-To: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 43 Summary: In article <131@drutx.UUCP> sef@drutx.UUCP (FarleighSE) writes: > >> .....then >>how about this: Employee embezzlement is said to be a major problem in >>American society these days. Why not give employers the right to come to >>your house or apartment (or condo, or teepee, or whatever), and conduct a >>full search, at any time? Why not give them the right to fire you, put >>nasty stuff into your records, and maybe have you imprisoned, if they >>find a couple of company pencils or maybe a few sheets of stationary? >>After all, those items do belong to them, and if you bring them home, that >>constitutes premeditated theft. Do you object? If so, you must be a >>criminal, because honest people would have nothing to fear. > >Back in about the 1930's the Ford Company did do just that! IBM still has blood testing for VD as part of their pre-hire medical checkup procedures on new employees. Watson Sr. was apparently a real nut on the subject. I wonder how many new-hires knew about that? They won't tell you unless you ask (I did). Though, according to the law here, it would be illegal for IBM to be told the results of the test - it's supposed to be handled by the MOH and/or your own physician if you test positive. How many people realize that VD testing is routinely done on blood samples taken for other purposes? At least in Ontario it is now considered semi unethical for a doctor *not* to ask for VD screening results on people at risk (eg: women either pregnant or of child-bearing age, or people about to get married (though I know that VD screening is a legal requirement in some states for marriage)) in *addition* to the original purpose of drawing the blood. Some labs do VD screening on almost *all* blood they get for testing. How come there isn't the same screaming and yelling about this? Isn't this an "invasion of privacy"? Because VD isn't "illegal"? Obviously, you haven't seen the VD statutes in this province! (strictly speaking, having in Ontario VD isn't "illegal". However, considering the reporting and treatment requirements, and the various fines/imprisonment available for punishing violators, it might as well be). If only they'd consider AIDS to be included under the same statutes - they're powerful enough for the situation, and appear to be "acceptable" to the populace in general. -- Chris Lewis, UUCP: {allegra, linus, ihnp4}!utzoo!mnetor!clewis BELL: (416)-475-8980 ext. 321