Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!caip!seismo!umcp-cs!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.politics Subject: Re: Air raid on Libya Message-ID: <221@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Apr-86 01:17:39 EDT Article-I.D.: promethe.221 Posted: Wed Apr 23 01:17:39 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Apr-86 04:56:58 EDT References: <157@unido.UUCP> <2109@yale.ARPA> Reply-To: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Organization: Prometheus II, Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 Lines: 65 Xref: watmath net.followup:5989 net.politics:15322 In article <2109@yale.ARPA> ksmith@yale-cheops.UUCP (Keith A. Smith) writes: > >I suspect that Reagan was mislead as to the liklihood of civilian casulties >by generals and the like who have always over-rated the accuracy of aerial >bombing. > The undisiplined and massive firing of SAMs and other antiaircraft weapons by the Libyans on numerous occasions when no attack was taking place resulted in more civilian casualties than were caused by the Ammerican bombs directed at terrorist and air defense instal- lations. Of course, I'll bet the they passed a few casulties off as having happened during the primary attack. The bombs dropped during the WWII against military targets were more than an order of magnitude more destructive of civilians than in this attack even including 16 tons of explosive (eight block buster size bombs) that were dumped or shaken loose by military hits on the crashing F111. Death of civilians is always counter productive, as we all know, and American policy and technology would be happiest if ONLY military targets and NOT A SINGLE CIVIlIAN would be affected by defensive counter-attacks. A 1% Hitler is capable of murdering sixty thousand people. Americans have great patience but when they are pushed too far they will leap frog to do what's necessary to bring the problem to a head and extract a solution. When one compares this attack with the "eye for and eye" attacks of the Israeli's against their semitic "brothers", it looks like an Easter Sunday Communion Picnic. Family fights always seem to be the worst kind. The European Israeli's who have survived the holocaust have done so at a price. Their genetic makeup is geared for survival under stress. They may not ever compromise because of the competitive edge they have in extreme stress. That adds more danger. In the words of Lindin LeRouch, "Cadet Khadafi is obviously an agent of the Israeli influence :-), in the sense that he is bringing the United States in, as a target of hostility in order to diffuse energy needed to weld a solution to the underlying problem of semitic peoples. That is of course the exploitation of a fevent religoius beliefs by cyn- ical political types to create monolithic State Religions with internal religious caste systems. If they don't knock that crap off soon, another generation of very creative people are going to be lost to meaningless misery or weapons making, and a fitful coexistence. > >Of the postings I've seen on this net about the Soviet response to the >kidnappng of four of their diplomats in Beirut are true (or even if they >are not true), this seems to me to be a better way to fight terrorism. The US - CIA and DIA have the closest correspondence to the Russian (kgb), but, Congress has limited the CIA's ability to respond in such a manner. That wasn't always the case and the United States wasn't always the push over it is recently. The Libyan response is one step in the right direction. What the hell maybe perhaps the CIA wouldn't take advantage of having a more free hand to "recover" Western political kidnap victims. Hey you Brits! ... Where is James Bond anyway? Why? Americans? We love underdogs and terrorist Revolutionaries, even though sometimes it's a bit misguided, it gives more balance to the con- flict. The theory is that the side most deserving will fight the hardest and win. They support the IRA the Israeli's , some of them even support young Cadet Khadafi. They could be much more sympathetic with the Palestinians if they wouldn't be so gutless and would no longer pull the chicken shit, bushwhacking or kidnapping westerners on travel or service assignments.