Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!polaris!herbie From: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.rumor,net.news.group Subject: Re: The elimination of certain non-technical newsgroups by so called "powers-that-be" Message-ID: <517@polaris.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-May-86 18:49:34 EDT Article-I.D.: polaris.517 Posted: Mon May 5 18:49:34 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 8-May-86 07:34:45 EDT References: <588@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <183@brl-sem.ARPA> <2697@jhunix.UUCP> Reply-To: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Organization: IBM TJ Watson RC Lines: 37 Xref: linus net.followup:5217 net.rumor:1882 net.news.group:4764 In article <2697@jhunix.UUCP> ins_akaa@jhunix.ARPA (Ken Arromdee) writes: >>In article <588@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, michael@ucbiris.berkeley.edu (Tom Slone [(415)486-5954]) writes: >>> A rumor has been put out that certain so called "powers-that-be" in the >>> backbone-sites are deciding the fate of certain non-technical >>> newsgroups, either to eliminate them, or to give them a second class >>> status. The discussion is taking place without the general knowledge > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> of the USENET community. It is being done in an attempt to reduce the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> ever increasing costs of USENET, particularly to these backbone-sites. > >I apparently missed the original article that contained this quote, but I >would like to know some more details about this. If true, it would seem >that the powers-that-be are hardly playing fair. this newsgroup (net.news.group) has been having discussions on this topic for the past year or more. if you haven't been reading it then it's about time you did if you really care about USENET. as for fairness, it is us who have been getting the free lunch for the past 4 years. if the backbone sites say no more netnews unless someone else pays, NO-ONE can force them to do otherwise. the backbone has been forking out a LOT of dollars (on the order of about $1M collectively for 1985) to support USENET. a dollar here, a dollar there, it adds up. Herb Chong... I'm still user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... VNET,BITNET,NETNORTH,EARN: HERBIE AT YKTVMH UUCP: {allegra|cbosgd|cmcl2|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!philabs!polaris!herbie CSNET: herbie.yktvmh@ibm-sj.csnet ARPA: herbie@ibm-sj.arpa, herbie%yktvmh.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu ======================================================================== DISCLAIMER: what you just read was produced by pouring lukewarm tea for 42 seconds onto 9 people chained to 6 Ouiji boards.