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From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc)
Newsgroups: net.followup,net.politics
Subject: Re: Air raid on Libya
Message-ID: <224@prometheus.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 27-Apr-86 16:03:28 EDT
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Posted: Sun Apr 27 16:03:28 1986
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Reply-To: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc)
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In article <206@psc70.UUCP> tos@psc70.UUCP (Dr.Schlesinger) writes:
>
>   The thesis that collateral damage in Tripoli may have been caused
>by Libyan missiles falling back after failing to reach their targets
>has been exposed as totally implausible... to persons acquainted with
>munitions it was absurd from the start.  The damage to those
>buildings in Tripoli was clearly caused by bombs, and fairly heavy
>ones at that, which are designed to burst their way into a structure
>in good part by their weight before the fuse detonates the payload of
>explosives.  The missiles fired at aircraft are relatively light and
>have fuses and explosive charges designed to attack the extremely
>vulnerable thin skins of aircraft. Thus even if they did fall back to
>earth (which in terms of trajectories would still make them unlikely
>to land in Tripoli) they would not cause the kind of building damage
>which was shown.
>
WRONG!  You're perhaps talking about WW II antiaircraft weapons,
but in order to knock down heavily armored F-111's, SAM missiles
have hundred pound plus explosives which are not fused.  They heat
seek and explode on impact or electronically in a close pass.  Con-
sidering relative speeds involved, a close pass would not be lethal 
if the explosives were less than this amount.   The bombs dropped 
by F111's were 2000 pound bombs which were "block busters" in the
WWII, but are more "brissant" to have greater underground bunker
knock out capacity.  These bombs level buildings over a square
block.  Most of the damage shown could have been easily
caused by SAM's.  Why was the Western Press asked to leave
Libya??  It's NOT because of the expulsion of Libyan students
from Western countries.  The last thing a country who has an
honest story to tell would do is expel the press. They apparently
could NOT convince the press that spent SAM's engines were the
remains of US aircraft.  One of these was shown near its very
large impact and detonation crater. They also got tired of the
press's insistence on seeing the military and most terrorist 
target areas, which of course was never allowed.

Be a little more careful and maybe try watching more detective
shows.  Your interpretation of the evidence is kind of sloppy.
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