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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
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Subject: Re: Air raid on Libya
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Date: Wed, 14-May-86 18:02:51 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 14 18:02:51 1986
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> In article <778@kontron.UUCP>, cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> > > >Not likely (because of their ties to Kaddaffi), but a 
> > > >Labour Party government in England at this point can't 
> > > >be distinguished from a Communist government by any
> > > >reasonable measure.
> > > >...
> > > >Clayton E. Cramer
> > > 
> > > Don't be stupid. I voted Conservative, but I would have to admit that 
> > > very few members of the Labour Party can be described as Communists, no
> > > matter how misguided their policies. They are 'Socialist', that much they
> > > confess themselves.
> > 
> > Didn't the last Labour Party platform include declaring Britain a nuclear-
> > free zone?  Removal of US bases from Britain?  How long do you think 
> > Britain would remain in NATO if the Labour Party won the next election?
> > 
> > Clayton E. Cramer
> 
> 

I've received a lot of criticism for my posting -- let me make it clear
that the policies described above are a not a complete statement of the
similiarities of the Labor Party and the Communists -- there are many
more in the economic area, which I neglected to include.

> So it is now considered communist to be a nuclear free zone, or to be 
> outwith NATO.
> 
> Pretty soon the definition of acommunist country will be one which is not
> the U.S.A.
> 
> Phil Todd

The idea that declaring yourself a "nuclear free zone" is going to make
even ONE bit of difference whether war is fought on your soil is so 
incredibly naive as to be unbelievable.  Since otherwise intelligent
people claim to believe this nonsense, I am forced to conclude that 
they do so because they are attempting to create a popular support for
pacifism.  Totalitarians have always benefitted from pacifism -- that's
why groups like CND exist.

Clayton E. Cramer