Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!voder!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: West Berlin - Ronnie's or Mike's ? Message-ID: <799@kontron.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-May-86 13:17:42 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.799 Posted: Tue May 20 13:17:42 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 23-May-86 08:02:10 EDT References: <2500007@coma.UUCP> <127@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Mt. View, CA Lines: 26 > In article <2500007@coma.UUCP> ao@coma.UUCP writes: > >How can we convince UCB, state (?) or federal (?) authorities > >that we are 'their' Berlin, and do not belong to the 'empire of evil'. > > It's good ol' Ronnie who carries the can for this one. He has set up an > organisation called COCOM to prevent the commies getting equipment, software > and "know-how" from the US that they (the commies) could use for military > purposes. Fair enough you might think, but COCOM think the commies start > at the US border, so even "strong allies" like the UK, Canada, W. Germany > are similary affected by the embargo. A research project here has been held > up for about a year because we couldn't get the necessary software exported > from the US. > > Nice to know the members of the NATO alliance trust each other, eh? > > Jim Restrictions on export of military goods (and even things that might be used for military purposes) predate President Reagan by years. Please learn a little history before you say utterly false things. The problem isn't lack of trust of our NATO allies -- the problem is Soviet bloc countries purchasing items through "fronts" in other countries. This problem exists here as well. Clayton E. Cramer