Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site jade.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!jade!ucbiris!michael From: michael@ucbiris.berkeley.edu (Tom Slone [(415)486-5954]) Newsgroups: net.general Subject: The elimination of certain non-technical newsgroups by so called "powers-that-be" Message-ID: <588@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 20-Apr-86 15:57:19 EST Article-I.D.: jade.588 Posted: Sun Apr 20 15:57:19 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Apr-86 06:23:22 EST Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: michael@ucbiris.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Slone [(415)486-5954]) Followup-To: net.followup Organization: Lawrence-Berkeley Labs, Carcinogenic Potency Program Lines: 32 A rumor has been put out that certain so called "powers-that-be" in the backbone-sites are deciding the fate of certain non-technical newsgroups, either to eliminate them, or to give them a second class status. The discussion is taking place without the general knowledge of the USENET community. It is being done in an attempt to reduce the ever increasing costs of USENET, particularly to these backbone-sites. I support efforts at reducing USENET phone costs, however I do not support the elimination of non-technical newsgroups for two reasons. First, a minor reason, elimination of newsgroups will have the effect of increasing discussion of extraneous matters within technical newsgroups. Second, the major reason: USENET, as it now exists, is a greater concept than many of us would seem to know. Because of its open-endedness; its free exchange of ideas; and its availability to anyone with a modest amount of money (specifically through groups like Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link which provides general public access to USENET for a fee); USENET has the features of an electronic university. Indeed, in some sense, USENET is more like a university than many institutions which go by that name, because unlike many of those institutions, it can be accessible at a modest fee to the individual and it does not tend to suppress individuals from thinking for themselves (I refer here to the rote method which still dominates many of today's classrooms). In consideration of the virtues of the current state of USENET, I urge the powers-that-be at the backbone-sites to exhaust all possible avenues for cost cutting before further newsgroup eliminations are implemented. ..arizona!___\ michael@ucbiris.berkeley.edu ..decwrl!_____!ucbvax!ucbiris!michael ..ihnp4!_____/ ..sun!______/ michael%ucbiris@berkeley.arpa