Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!columbia!chris From: chris@columbia.UUCP (Chris Maio) Newsgroups: net.info-terms,net.internat Subject: Re: In search of a sane keyboard standard Message-ID: <2354@columbia.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-May-86 14:09:48 EDT Article-I.D.: columbia.2354 Posted: Tue May 6 14:09:48 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 8-May-86 08:28:59 EDT References: <2071@cbosgd.UUCP> <521@brl-smoke.ARPA> Reply-To: chris@columbia.edu (Chris Maio) Organization: Columbia University CS Department Lines: 24 Xref: linus net.info-terms:452 net.internat:17 There's nothing wrong with the Horton Standard Keyboard, but I would suggest adopting the (similar) DEC VT100 keyboard as a standard instead, with the option widening the control key and moving caps lock out of the way. Among other things, a significant number of the keyboards out there would already be compliant. >In any event, we need to identify the source of the problem before >we can expect to get it fixed. Would some terminal vendors please >explain how they came up with their keyboard layout designs? I think Human Designed Systems, makers of the old Concept 100's and AVTs, does it right. After I ordered a couple of batches of AVTs with non-standard keyboards, the president of the company himself called me up to ask what I didn't like about their keyboards. I didn't ask for anything odd, and sure enough the next keyboard they brought out, for the HDS200, was exactly what I wanted -- basically a VT100 layout but with a wide control key, caps lock under linefeed, meta-key under left-shift, plus the keypad and dozens of pf keys on an "ergonmetric" keyboard with a good feel. If you're picky, you can redefine keys like BS, DEL, LF, CR, etc to generate whatever you want (you can even download your own font if you don't like the standard one, or if you want, say, italics in standout mode). I won't go into the many other great features of the HDS200, but I would definitely recommend it to anyone who cares what kind of terminal they use. Chris