Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!hpda!hpisoa2!hpitg!amdcad!phil@amdcad From: phil@amdcad Newsgroups: net.mail Subject: Re: Re: Reading other peoples' mail Message-ID: <11467@amdcad> Date: Fri, 25-Apr-86 03:47:00 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.11467 Posted: Fri Apr 25 03:47:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 13-May-86 01:38:12 EDT References: <1400@ecsvax> Lines: 41 In article <1451@ecsvax.UUCP> bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) writes: >In article <168@dione.rice.EDU> salex@iapetus.rice.edu writes: > >>If you rely on any utility of mail being private, especially if it >>goes through machines not controlled by sender or recipient, you are >>fooling yourself. > >I don't rely on it being private. I do rely on it being unmolested by >other Systems Administrators. Mail's utility is predicated on it being >as reliable as the network will allow. Sounds like you agree there. I agree too. Except that if reliability is important to you, you should set up a direct link. Don't complain about other people when you have the most direct means of solving the problem. Especially when the other people are doing you a favor by relaying your mail. >> It has been my observation that >>all mail administrators that I have dealt with have very few qualms >>about reading others mail. Perhaps, it shouldn't be that way, but >>it's not going to change any more quickly than any of the other >>problems which result from a system of decentralized control of the >>network. > >I'm sorry that's the case. *I* figure my users have some right to >privacy. For those SAs that go out of their way to read mail, I hope >they read something about themselves. I'm not sure but I think Scott meant that mail admins read mail going through their machine. As far as I'm concerned, my machine is there for my users and they have a right to as much privacy as can reasonably be given. (if they leave a temporary file in /tmp and I need to clean out /tmp, I'll read it before rm'ing it.) But people who send mail *through* my machine have no rights to privacy. -- Cats are alien beings sent here to sit on our cars. Phil Ngai +1 408 749 5720 UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!phil ARPA: amdcad!phil@decwrl.dec.com