Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!hpda!hpisoa2!hpitg!ccird2!rb@ccird2 From: rb@ccird2 Newsgroups: net.micro.6809 Subject: Re: New Coco III Message-ID: <793@ccird2> Date: Fri, 25-Apr-86 03:49:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ccird2.793 Posted: Fri Apr 25 03:49:00 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 14-May-86 07:18:42 EDT References: <807@ihwpt> Lines: 59 In article <331@ius2.cs.cmu.edu> ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu (Ralph Hyre) writes: >In article <2439@watale.UUCP> rsanderson@watale.UUCP (Roger K. Sanderson P.Eng.) writes: >>In article <807@ihwpt.UUCP> knudsen@ihwpt.UUCP (mike knudsen) writes: >>>Last weekend I got some pretty solid rumors ... about the new >>>Coco III. Are you ready? >>>Lower case (at last!!!) and a Shift-Lock key. That's it. >>> >>>80 columns? 40? 128K? OS9 Level II? Control key? >>>Escape key? Monitor out? UART? [nope]. >Think big! Ask Tandy for a machine with AT LEAST the above features, plus: > > - A faster 6809 (E version?) > - A memory management unit (6821) > - 256K memory expandable to 1 Meg onboard > (can the 6821 handle this?) > - OS9 level II to go with above > - A 680X0 coprocessor/high-bandwith expansion port, to provide for > moving up to 680X0 OS-9. Imagine! Real multiasking on an Atari ST > or Macintosh class machine. > (presumably the high-resolution graphics would be on the 68K card) - SCSI interface - so WE can get some of those neat 3'rd party products RS won't produce. - Put the "High Res display adapter" as an accesory. Possibly on the SCSI, then Tandy could sell one "display manager" for all of its machines, and other SCSI based machines. >Hopefully Tandy isn't too smug about their IBM Clone successes, and they'll >see the need for a Mac/ST/Amiga class machine in the product line. Good Ol' Tandy, "Last years technology in next years product". I think they are the only ones left actively producing a 16K, 32Col,16 line, 8bit computer, let alone selling it for the "bargain price" of $70. Then of course, there's that $300 SS/SD disk drive. For $5 more, I can get 64K, 40Colx25line,8 bitter, with more storage. Actually, they have Mac/ST/Amiga class hardware. The model 16, and 6000 are even slightly better (they have REAL memory management). Of course price is no object to Tandy, you can pay as much as they want you to :-). Does the 6000 have high res graphics? Considering the underwhelming support Tandy has given it's other computers, especially the CoCo, I can't see even looking at the $1000 1000. Tandy wants a monopoly on their hardware/software/peripherals. That's OK with me, I'll look elsewhere. For the price of a 1000, I can get almost twice the memory, twice the speed, twice the disk storage, AND DMA. Tandy has a great marketing organisation, but their engineering department seems to come out with a real price/performance innovation about once every 2 years, then abandons it for "more interesting" persuits. Meanwhile, the prices are relatively "fixed" to uncompetitive levels, driving any potential support away. It's too bad Tandy can't go after the small third party developers the way Amiga and Atari did. Can you imagine the benefits of the distribution channels!!! :-). Way to go Tandy :-). Burned once :-(.