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From: daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie)
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Subject: Re: Commodore 128 Mouse Interface
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Date: Wed, 7-May-86 12:29:32 EDT
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Posted: Wed May  7 12:29:32 1986
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In article <290@encore.UUCP> corbin@encore.UUCP (Steve Corbin) writes:
>I have just purchased a Commodore 128 mouse with the hopes of connecting
>it to my Z80/CPM machine.  The only documentation supplied in the package
>is the connector pinout.  Does anyone know where I can get the full
>technical details for this device?  Items of interest would be schematics,
>electrical and timing characteristics, suggested hardware interfaces, and
>software drivers.
>
>....
>
>The little I could tell about these signals is:
>
>BUTTON #1, BUTTON #2
>
>These lines are connected to one contact of the pushbuttons with the other
>contacts to GND.  No pull-up or debounce circuitry.

On the C128, one of the buttons is sensed though a 6526 CIA, the other 
though a port on the SID chip.  Essentially what happens is that one bit
of a parallel output port is used to read in each button press.  Bouncing
has not been a problem, as the port device has a degree of internal pullup,
and scanning this at a 250KHz rate, or thereabouts, at most, we've found
no need for debouncing.  Also, the first button is completely compatible
with the C128/C64 joystick fire button; a large portion of the total
design is based on necessary compatibility with the joystick.

>UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT

These pins emulate the four switches in the standard C128/C64 digital
joystick.

>Active low signals indicating direction(s) of movement.  UP/LEFT, UP/RIGHT,
>DOWN/LEFT and DOWN/RIGHT may be simultaneous and asynchronous with respect
>to each other.  Questions are:
>
>	1.  Are these lines pulsed for each 'step' of movement?

Yes, the lines are pulsed; faster movement results in greater "active" time.
There's a tiny, dedicated microprocessor in the mouse that does the "vane"
pulse to joystick pulse conversion.  These lines are attached to the same
parallel port in the C128/C64 as is the fire button.  

>	2.  What is the resolution of movement? (i.e. steps/inch)
>	3.  What is the minimum/maximum pulse width?

Not sure about these.

>	4.  What is the minimum/maximum high time between pulses?

I think you can "saturate" the pulsing, i.e., if you move it fast enough,
you can get a continuous active output.

>	5.  What is the output voltage levels?

The voltage level into the mouse should be 5v +/- 5% regulated DC, the 
output will be standard TTL levels.

>Thanks in advance,
>Steve Corbin
>
>Usenet: corbin@encore
>        {ihnp4, allegra, linus}!encore!corbin

As for programming it, there's a short machine program (6502 code of course)
in the C64 Programmer's Reference Guide, intended for joysticks, which could
be modified for optimal mouse performance.  In the example, $DC00 is the
location of the memory-mapped port.

	;Program to read the direction change from a joystick or mouse.

	DX = $C110		;X direction
	DY = $C111		;Y direction

DJRR	LDA $DC00		;Read port
DJRRB	LDY #$00		;Decode it, buy shifting values right
	LDX #$00		;and testing for the carry bit.
	LSR A			;Bits 0 and 1 modify the Y direction
	BCS DJR0
	DEY
DJR0	LSR A
	BCS DJR1
	INY
DJR1	LSR A			;Bits 2 and 3 modify the X direction
	BCS DJR2
	DEX
DJR2	LSR A
	BCS DJR3
	INX
DJR3	LSR A			;Bit 4 is the fire button.

	STX DX			;Exit here with X,Y directions stored, and
	STY DY			;the fire button status in the carry bit.
	RTS

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Dave Haynie    {caip,inhp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh
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